Friday, January 3, 2014

Les Jamieson: back to Rethinking 911 Fraud

This is in the first search result for Rethink911.org:

ReThink911.org | Sign the Petition for a new 9/11 investigation

rethink911.org/
From December 12 to January 9, the ReThink911 campaign is sponsoring ads on ... featuring Les Jamieson (NYC Coordinator, ReThink911.org), Richard Gage,
How did that happen?  Oh right, it's all a con!  Forgot that for a moment.

http://rethink911.org/news/rethink911-events-in-new-york-city-september-2013/

 ReThink911 Events in New York City
 Watch videos and photos of ReThink911′s event in Times Square on September 11, 2013, featuring Les Jamieson (NYC Coordinator, ReThink911.org), Richard Gage, AIA (AE911Truth.org), Tom Kiely and Lenny Charles (Co-founders INN World Report), Cynthia McKinney (Former U.S. Congresswoman), Vance Green (FOIA Researcher, Activist), and Dr. William Pepper (International Civil Rights Attorney).

Videos and photos follow including this one:


 Who do we have here?  Les Jamieson, Richard Gage,  some random dupe, and convicted pedophile sex offender John P Dinatale:

http://forums.randi.org/showthread.php?t=265774

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AE911 in bed with convicted Sex Offender?

Following a thread on facebook regarding this youtube video taken on 9/11 this year, the Marine John P Dinatale seems to have been one of their main speakers, boasting 5 degrees and all round support for Richard Gage.

Except it turns out, he's also a registered sex offender.

http://offender.fdle.state.fl.us/off...personId=65694

Following this video on liveleak, there are some questions as to whether he was ever even a Marine.

Is Richard Gage getting desperate, or does he think it perfectly acceptable to have a convicted sex offender (against a minor, no less) as one of his key speakers?

What a dream team Rethink is turning out to be!    They even cover him at 9/11 Blogger, where NO ONE is bothered by his criminal record that involves minors:

http://911blogger.com/topics/john-di-natale

9/11 Free Fall 4/11/13: John Di Natale-- Another Veteran Speaks Out


John Di Natale is an engineer, entrepreneur, and a former Marine. In this episode of 9/11 Free Fall he talks about his awakening and about overcoming the media and emotional barriers people put up to 9/11 Truth.
LOL.  Good luck with that:
Victim Information
Gender:Female  Minor:Yes
Back to Les: what is known about him?   Again let's go to 911blogger.  This should be instructive:
http://911blogger.com/topics/les-jamieson

9/11 Free Fall 9/26/13: Les Jamieson- Activist


Les Jamieson is a resident of Brooklyn and has studied the alternative research into 9/11 since November, 2001. He was an organizer for the 3-year long film series at St. Marks Church on Sundays in New York's east village and a leading organizer for the NYC 9/11 Ballot Initiative. He has also been central in planning several large 9/11 symposiums around the country and anniversary events in New York City including the Rethink911 rally in Times Square under this campaign's billboard. In this episode he talks with Andy Steele about the 9/11 Commission, the ReThink911 rally in New York, and his thoughts on the American public and the resistance of some to facing the evidence about what really happened on 9/11.



Presidential Candidate, Sen. Mike Gravel Meets with 9/11 First Responders


Presidential Candidate, Sen. Mike Gravel Meets with 9/11 First Responders
http://ny911truth.org/

Now comes the interesting bit:  how between 2007 and 2013 one of the site moderators expressed "concern" about Les:

 http://911blogger.com/news/2008-03-23/reaching-and-teaching-public-about-911-truth-les-jamieson

REACHING AND TEACHING THE PUBLIC ABOUT 9/11 TRUTH from Les Jamieson


The following email sent out by Les Jamieson has some great questions & answers to use when speaking with the general public about 9/11 truth & the need for a new investigation!
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Hello all,
Since many of you are active in the petition campaign and will be out with us on Saturday at Union Sq. Park, I want to share some dialogue points. For those on this list who are outside of the NYC metro area, these points should also be of value....TL;DR
Victronix replies:

Recommended reading

Les has been involved in providing a stage and mic on each of the past two 9/11 Anniversaries to Judy Wood, Jim Fetzer and Alfred Webre, among others who have discredited our work and even directly disrupted our organizing.
I'm still concerned that Edgar Mitchell, a former astronaut who says that he conducted an ESP experiment on his lunar mission, who says he knows that aliens have visited the US, who is the keynote speaker at ‘X-Conference 2008’ (a large UFO conference in DC), and who is involved in pseudo-science claims like zero-point energy, UFO physics, ESP, and psychic cures, should have been selected as commissioner on the NYC Ballot Initiative. Why? See -- http://www.truthmove.org/forum/topic/871
It seems to go along with choosing Alfred Webre to be a speaker at his groups' 2007 Anniversay event in NYC so that he could claim that hidden laser weapons outside the building caused the attendance to be low for the event.
On Alfred Webre --
Preview of Interview with Alfred Webre
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-7314062448902505641&q=alfred+we...

ALFRED WEBRE - "Aliens gave time-travel technology to governments"
"Contact by UFOs is a grassroots education program for humanity," Webre says. He further adds that there are technologies like anti-gravity and time travel in the possession of certain governments that have been transferred by extraterrestrials."
http://www.dnaindia.com/report.asp?NewsID=1080571

On Leuren Moret & Alfred Webre --
"International Citizens 9/11 War Crimes Tribunal"
http://peaceinspace.blogs.com/911/

Links only to Morgan Reynolds, Judy Wood, Ace Baker, September Clues, Total Info 911, Fetzer's Madison Conference, etc. The "Tribunal" is to investigate the role of DEW, nukes, etc. in NYC on 9/11/01.
Mixing hoax or pseudoscience claims with strong evidence is called discrediting by association.
Except now 911bloger has no problem with being discredited by association:

http://911blogger.com/news/2013-10-02/911-free-fall-92613-les-jamieson-activist

Victronix is a site MODERATOR, and you'd think she'd reject this blog outright or at least protest:

http://911blogger.com/faq
Who maintains 911blogger.com?
jkeogh
Orangutan.
LeftWright
Victronix
Simuvac
This is lulz:  http://911blogger.com/users/victronix

Victronix

General

About Me
I advocate for high standards of evidence in the movement. Most won't like what I have to say, but it often needs to be said. I don't like it either when someone calls me on doing shoddy, speculative or easily refuted stuff, but eventually I realize it was for the best to hear it.
Website
http://www.stj911.org
Location
California
" I advocate for high standards of evidence in the movement."
And perpetual motion machines, lol!

So how did a site run with the help of someone with "high standards" start promoting Les Jamieson?

There are two parts to that answer.  The first is Jamieson  who has a checkered history with a variety of cult organizations:

Larouche:    
Les Jamieson is an ideologue of the convicted felon, political extremist, and deeply racist megalomaniac Lyndon H. LaRouche, Jr. and, like LaRouche, is a thief to boot.
“9/11 Truth” has its roots in the activities of people like street activist Dennis Griggs, one of the founders of what has come to be known as the No Police State Coalition. It was Mr. Griggs who could often be seen in the months and years that followed 9/11 in Union Square with a bullhorn, claiming that there was high level U.S. government
involvement in the 9/11 attacks and that the government is covering all that up.

Urantia
Les Jamieson is a major leader of the NY 9-11 Denial group. He debated Ron Wieck memorably on Hardfire back in July of 2006, getting whipped so badly that even the 9-11 Blogger groupies were moaning.
He's also a member of this weird Urantia cult.
SNIP
 Nico Haupt, who pointed to this information, appears to believe that Jamieson represents an infiltration by the Urantia cult, but there is no evidence of that. From what this list of the names of some Urantia members, Jamieson is the only recognizable one of any prominence in the 9-11 Denial movement. Indeed, this just seems to be a case of somebody who's into one cult joining another.
 Actually, it's  a case of someone joining any group that can be exploited for money.  Les is a leader, not a follower.  It's doubtful he cares  about either cult "mission" as long as it makes money.

But that doesn't mean cult ties aren't important.  The second reason Les is being given face time of 911blogger is he shares his interest in Larouche's propaganda with 911blogger's webmaster:

 Doesn't he know by know it's run by at least one man with a history of pushing anti-semite/conspiracy bs?

https://dir.groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/DemocracyforWisconsin/conversations/topics/7729


Ted Tilton Jr.
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Here is some more information when considering the current history of our country...
[SNIP TL;DR]
See: A Bigger Scandal: Illegal U.S. Funding of Sharon's Likud
www.larouchepub.com/other/2003/3003likud_usgangsta.html


The other 911blogger owner, JKeogh, is heavily involved with Architects and Engineers for 911 Truth, the creators funding the Rethink911.org campaign.

Correction, they fund it...not so much the creators.  That's another fraud.
 
It all comes back to MONEY.  Wonder which one of these frauds with end up ripping the other off in the end?


Taking bets:

Les "Cult Boss" Jamieson?
The 911blogger Orangutan?
Richard "Milking the Sheeple" Gage?

5 comments:

  1. There is absolutely no doubt that Les Jamieson is a thief,a parasite and a vicious player of hardball hiding behind an 'aw shucks,let's just chill' persona.
    Legions of people who have worked with him,defended him and supported him have testified to his wily ways.
    Richard Gage will find out the hard way about this crook.Hundreds of others already have.
    The man belongs in jail.

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  2. >>>The man belongs in jail.

    And so does Gage.

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  3. Les has been shown to have embezzled many thousands of donated dollars.
    These funds were used to pay his homeowner bills,car insurance,clothing,haircuts,even tickets to Santana and Allman Brothers concerts.
    This as he trimmed to the bone the actions of ny911truth as the movement reached a crescendo in 2006-2007.Dozens and dozens of long term members dropped out in disgust as his sleazy moves created dissension and splits within a formerly vital and effective group.

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    1. >>>This as he trimmed to the bone the actions of ny911truth as the movement

      When will you people get it into your thick skulls the "movement" was a fraud? Of course Les & Co were conning people.

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  4. "Correction, they fund it...not so much the creators. That's another fraud."

    Hyperlink goes to this blog

    http://rethinkae911truth.blogspot.com/2013/07/911blogger-arch-nemisis-wtcdemo-plugs.html

    "Comments imply "anonymous" is Evdokas and is known to users. Meaning the website Rethink911.org appears to be a group branding effort of Richard Gage and Petros Evdokas, promoted by Justin Keogh and Gus Espada."

    Whoa, whoa, what?

    Those of us following twooferdom know who Gage and Keogh are. These other two clowns seem to be a special kinda stupid, operating in Cyprus and Harvard University respectively. Evdokas was a conman arrested for spreading slander about a local politician

    http://cyprus-mail.com/2015/07/22/bloggers-computers-seized-over-spoof-patsalis-resignation-letter/

    and Espada a member of Fetzer's Scholars group who also has a past with irresponsible comupter use

    http://www.lowellsun.com/front/ci_4173789
    http://educationforum.ipbhost.com/index.php?/topic/4554-cybergoons/

    What does anyone have to gain by playing these convoluted games? IIRC Cyprus is a base for money laudering and other less than legal activities, and has connections to Russian mob interests.

    https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2017/mar/23/wilbur-ross-russian-deal-bank-of-cyprus-donald-trump-commerce-secretary

    There's a story in here somewhere. That just too weird a Cypriot conman and Harvard loon founded or were involved in founding one of conman Gage's websites.

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